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  We cannot abstain from blood. Our bodies need it and they keep producing it. If bodies fail, a transfusion would be acceptable.

  by quincemyles in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  god prohibited the eating of blood.

  in genesis, leviticus and deuteronomy the edict is clear: "do not eat blood !

  " when the apostles said "abstain from blood," jewish christians must have contextually understood that to mean "do not eat blood.

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  Lee Elder

  We have very good articles available at AJWRB regarding these issues. Check them out if you are not familiar with them:

  http://ajwrb.org/bible
  
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  The Horror of mom needing blood and almost dying...you dont want this!!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my mom was unwell for awhile bruises on her body....doc tells us she has a form of lukiemia.

  of course "no blood" she is anointed and stubborn as hell.

  her platelets (blood fraction 2% of blood volume) are 4 should be 150!!!

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  Print these out. Read them to you mom if she will listen:

  http://ajwrb.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/abstain1.pdf

  http://jme.bmj.com/content/26/5/375.full

  http://ajwrb.org/watchtower/the-h-l-c-perspective
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  What makes people kill others over religion? The same thing that makes JW's let children die over blood doctrine.

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my inactive relative, (female) asked in exasperation, "what makes people kill others over religion?

  " i responded, "the same thing that makes jw's let children die over the blood doctrine.

  religious ignorance and fervor causing the death of others without any compunction?

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  In all of these situations there is a claim of authority. Once you accept that claim, they have you and they know it. To disagree with them is to disagree with God.
  
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  Document Blood Transfusion Deaths - please help

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.

  if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.

  send as many details as you can recall.

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  Thanks for sharing. It certainly seems that Leukemia and childbirth claim the majority of JW lives.
  
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  Document Blood Transfusion Deaths - please help

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.

  if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.

  send as many details as you can recall.

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  Lee Elder

  @OrphanCrow

  You can use it that way. If you prefer not to, email it to me:

  [email protected]

  Thanks
  
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  Document Blood Transfusion Deaths - please help

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.

  if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.

  send as many details as you can recall.

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  Simon. The link keeps disappearing. Can you fix this?

  Here it is:

  http://ajwrb.org/watchtower-blood-map
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  Document Blood Transfusion Deaths - please help

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.

  if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.

  send as many details as you can recall.

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  Lee Elder

  The link to the Watchtower Blood Map is not showing up on my post.

  Please click on this link and report your experience with the form on the bottom of the page. Please provide as much of the information requested in the first post as possible.
  

  Thank you.
  
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  Document Blood Transfusion Deaths - please help

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.

  if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.

  send as many details as you can recall.

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  Lee Elder

  The vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy. If you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it. Send as many details as you can recall. We will post the story on our website at AJWRB via the "Blood map".

  If possible include, names, dates, cause of death, disease/injury, age, city/state/country, congregation, photos and any other relevant information you have. Help us show the real cost of this policy and force the WTS hand to get rid of it. There is a contact page at the bottom of the map.
  

  
  Watchtower Blood Map
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  JWs have more good points than bad

  by lsw1961 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

  2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

  this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

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  I don't have time to read all of this. I would simply say that if Jehovah's Witnesses did not have some good things going for them, they wouldn't be around. I had some very good JW friends when I was still active. I knew a lot of very good people who were JW, and they have some very good teachings.

  There are, however, two sides to every coin. If we are being honest, we have to acknowledge that the religion has some very problematic policies in place that have caused great harm to both individuals and families. If you could put an end to Watchtower abuses, they would be a reasonably good fundamentalist Christian community. Until that happens, however, they are are not a safe place to have your family. There are much, much better places to be imo.
  
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  Did you know anyone who commited suicide in the org?

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  back in 1991, a young brother maybe 18 years old living next to my place committed suicide.

  his father expected him to be very zealous just like he was, but the son never wanted to be like that.

  he was always controlled by his father.

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  One young brother I grew up with drove up to the mountains and shot himself in the head.

  Another sister I pioneered with in my teens, stopped her subscription to the WT/G, fashioned a hose to her exhaust pipe and gassed herself.

  A young woman stopped her car on the side of the interstate and stepped out in front of a semi-truck.

  Another drank himself to death.
  

  There are others.